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TOPIC: Is TR Stuck in MEDIOCRITY wrt Integration?

Re:Is TR Stuck in MEDIOCRITY wrt Integration? 12 years 8 months ago #4852

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Totally agree, It will be nice see that TR development is not dead.
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Re:Is TR Stuck in MEDIOCRITY wrt Integration? 12 years 8 months ago #4854

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And so, almost TWO MONTHS since this thread was started, there is NO CONCRETE COMMUNICATION OF EXPECTATIONS from the Claire and Jeremy.

Apart from being GROSSLY IRRESPONSIBLE, you guys also seem to have an implicit policy to ignore your customers.

I'll make the PLEA one more time ... Please can we have a roadmap and what to expect? NOW (end of the year) will be a good time to clarify future expectations so people who can start making plans to migrate their workflow to different systems.

I have gotten to the point where I after telling people about TR, I just warn them that crude to the point where I tell them NOT TO BUY TR because its future is very uncertain. Personally, I'd love to get some closure on this, so Claire & Jeremy, could you PLEASE give us the courtesy of a response?
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Re:Is TR Stuck in MEDIOCRITY wrt Integration? 12 years 8 months ago #4855

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We are working on a new version for Android. After that, it will probably be a few small functionality improvements for the desktop, like IMAP email, etc...

I use TR everyday and I don't miss any major functionality. We have invested lots of time into TR. It has come a long way since 2005 and we are at the point where we feel it is a quality product with a lot of functionality already. I know some users probably don't choose TR because it is complex already.

It is not as integrated with Mac native functionality as other products but we are targeting multi-platform market so you can't have both worlds. I don't think it will affect your productivity that much. Regarding the iCloud, you can see some users would like it, some not. I find I can access TR anywhere through using Dropbox.

Recent users have a trial version and I believe that if they buy TR, it is because they are happy with the product.

And please don't think we made lots of money and now don't care about the users. That is not the case.
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Re:Is TR Stuck in MEDIOCRITY wrt Integration? 12 years 8 months ago #4856

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Hello Claire

You miss my point. In the spirit of GTD, is it too much to publish a roadmap of its development? That's the one thing everyone who has commented on this thread is asking for. And no, your email below is NOT a roadmap and does not address that need.


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claire wrote:
We are working on a new version for Android. After that, it will probably be a few small functionality improvements for the desktop, like IMAP email, etc...

Do you really think your one paragraph above satisfies the need of those that have posted on this thread? Or is sufficient as a roadmap? --- if you do, you probably think we are stupid.

I use TR everyday and I don't miss any major functionality. We have invested lots of time into TR. It has come a long way since 2005 and we are at the point where we feel it is a quality product with a lot of functionality already. I know some users probably don't choose TR because it is complex already.


If you re-read my first post, I did say I have tried quite a few GTD Apps and TR is the best when it comes to how it follows the GTD framework. Then again the arrogance of stating that because it is good for you, it has to be for the rest of those who raised concerns on this thread is quite insightful.

So just to give an example, while I believe TR is already 95% THERE on the desktop, it is really MEDIOCRE compared to the competition on the mobile platforms. The iPad TR is a monument to inelegance in both functionality and TR.

It is not as integrated with Mac native functionality as other products but we are targeting multi-platform market so you can't have both worlds. I don't think it will affect your productivity that much. Regarding the iCloud, you can see some users would like it, some not. I find I can access TR anywhere through using Dropbox.


I agree with some of what you say, I use TR with Dropbox and don't care much for iCloud. But the responsible thing and the respectful thing to do here again is - PUBLISH A ROADMAP! - whatever you and Jeremy think you can commit to. That way everyone knows what the future looks like and so IF they don't like it they can make plans to. Is that really too much to ask?

Recent users have a trial version and I believe that if they buy TR, it is because they are happy with the product.

So was everyone who has contributed to this thread. We all bought the pro versions because we LOVED it and as a pro user for 2 years plus, I can definitely state the pace of innovation has dropped off.

Those users once they become more proficient will also start asking for more.

And please don't think we made lots of money and now don't care about the users. That is not the case.

Well REFUSING to publish something as simple as a development roadmap is certainly the type of behaviour of company that doesn't care about their clients.


You guys have made a VERY GOOD product, now can you guys make it GREAT?
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Counterbalance 12 years 8 months ago #4857

Hi,

After reading this thread, I felt I had to write a reply to counterbalance some of the posters.
I'm a happy longtime ThinkingRock user. Yes, it's quite complex, yes, the development of new features has slowed down and no, there is no fancy web frontend or cloud service.

However - I'm a big fan of a stable and usable product, and that's what ThinkingRock currently is. Sometimes people seem to want a continuous development cycle, with new features and changes to the interface every x months.

Merely the fact that there was one upgrade the last 5 months is not a reason to panic, or to think that the application is less valuable for users. On the contrary, it shows that there is a stable product which users are happy to buy a license for. How often is Apple's iOS updated ?

As far as "TR is STUCK IN MEDIOCRITY" - well, I do not agree.
I try to use specific apps for specific jobs and am hesitant to applications that promise to do everything. ThinkingRock is perfect in maintaining a GTD state while working on your computer. GTD is not only about lists, it's more about processing items and regularly reviewing your 'things'.

  • For quick synchronized ToDo lists on my phone or tablet for example I use Google Tasks (see the free Android app Tasks )
  • If you want to have hotkeys, use a dedicated app like AutoHotKey (see for example www.trgtd.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1286 )

  • Supporting an app and its developers can be done in many ways. One is positive feedback. Yes, we're on the Internet, but please keep this discussion polite and sensible.


    Just my opinion on this....


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    Re:Counterbalance 12 years 8 months ago #4858

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    Hello Charlie,

    I appreciate your comments. If you read my first post, I start by stating how great software I think TR is as a GTD tool. I still believe it is and all my posts are to make sure it gets better.

    Requests for Bells and Whistles aside, the one thing everyone on this thread is unified in asking for is: A ROADMAP of TR's Development. Even if that roadmap is to say "we'll only have new feature updates every 5 years" - Is that an unreasonable request to make? Is is a professional thing that builders of a GTD application should do?


    I agree with the need to be respectful in communications and that should extend to the kind of responses we get from the developers.
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