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Re:TR iOS - reference items and projects 13 years 8 months ago #3945

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Texas wrote:
...One note - I have about 100 ref items.
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Sergei.

Hi Sergei,
Feel free to contact me on skype and i'll investigate the specifics of your problem.
Cheers
Carl.
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Re:TR iOS - reference items and projects 13 years 7 months ago #4020

Thanks for putting the reference Items on the iPhone!!!

But the next feature request is here (you most probably already thought of it)

Please implement the ability to sort / filter and search the reference items.
My reference items are topic-related.

When I want to look at the list of "Books to buy" or "films to watch" or "places to go"... an unsorted, unfiltered non-searchable list of all my reference items is almost useless.

Best regards,
Harald
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Re:TR iOS - reference items and projects 13 years 7 months ago #4037

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Hallo!
1) I'm using wi-fi sync.
This bug works in 100% in my case.
I attach the screen on iPhone as it finishes sync. You can see the progress bar on ref items does not reaches the end a little bit - maybe that matters.
Dropbox sync is not an option since there could be sensitive data in TR and dropbox security is known to be weak.
In general TR sync is not convenient - cos I have to do 3 things:
1.start sync on desktop app
2.run sync from iPhone
3.and the worst thing is that one have to do 1 and 2 above at the same time

2) I like the idea when I can at least make points 1 and 2 independent. For instance I upload from iPhone my thoughts and other sync data to a webDav or sftp resource and then at any time TR desktop app can get that data to a desktop applicaiton.
Maybe dropbox works this way - haven't tried it cos of security issues.
I would recommend taking a look at GoodReader for iPhone app. It really rocks in all ways: how it does syncronization, the way navigation in folders is implemented and so on.

3) I would say that displaying reference items and projects in plain tree list is very inconvenient. I have like 100 projects and about the same number or reference items. I think that display should be similar to folders. For projects grouping is natural since projects have parent projects and for reference items those could be grouped by topic. Then tapping on project will bring you to the level of child projects and tapping on topic for reference will bring you to all ref items with that topic.

4) Also a note on landscape display for new screens - projects and reference items. It does not work like other screens. When you change the scree orientation to landscape on the top level of the app and the enter a projects or ref items screen - you have those screens in landscape BUT if you enter project and ref items screen from portrait view on the top application level you can not change to landscape inside projects or ref screen. Other screens can switch between portrait and landscape views. This should be the same for all screens.


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Re:TR iOS - reference items and projects 13 years 7 months ago #4039

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Hallo!
1) I'm using wi-fi sync.
This bug works in 100% in my case.
I attach the screen on iPhone as it finishes sync. You can see the progress bar on ref items does not reaches the end a little bit - maybe that matters.
Dropbox sync is not an option since there could be sensitive data in TR and dropbox security is known to be weak.
In general TR sync is not convenient - cos I have to do 3 things:
1.start sync on desktop app
2.run sync from iPhone
3.and the worst thing is that one have to do 1 and 2 above at the same time

Hi Sergi,

We've discovered a bug this week where problems can occur if a action/project/reference item gets over 5kb in size. Seems this can occur for projects and reference items more often than we'd imagined. I have a fix ready to go for this which is being tested right now.
2) I like the idea when I can at least make points 1 and 2 independent. For instance I upload from iPhone my thoughts and other sync data to a webDav or sftp resource and then at any time TR desktop app can get that data to a desktop applicaiton.
Maybe dropbox works this way - haven't tried it cos of security issues.
I would recommend taking a look at GoodReader for iPhone app. It really rocks in all ways: how it does syncronization, the way navigation in folders is implemented and so on.
Its a bit trickier than it seems when you get users using multiple computers and/or multiple devices. We've considered adding an encryption layer but the app store terms of reference get a bit hard at that point. That's not to say we won't look at it again.
3) I would say that displaying reference items and projects in plain tree list is very inconvenient. I have like 100 projects and about the same number or reference items. I think that display should be similar to folders. For projects grouping is natural since projects have parent projects and for reference items those could be grouped by topic. Then tapping on project will bring you to the level of child projects and tapping on topic for reference will bring you to all ref items with that topic.
Fair criticism. We're looking at it for the next version.
4) Also a note on landscape display for new screens - projects and reference items. It does not work like other screens. When you change the scree orientation to landscape on the top level of the app and the enter a projects or ref items screen - you have those screens in landscape BUT if you enter project and ref items screen from portrait view on the top application level you can not change to landscape inside projects or ref screen. Other screens can switch between portrait and landscape views. This should be the same for all screens.

Thanks. I hadn't noticed this issue before. Agree that all screens should work in any orientation. I'll look into a fix for the next version.
Regards,
Sergei.
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Re:TR iOS - reference items and projects 13 years 7 months ago #4040

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Appreciate instant and positive response :)
Cool that we have a fix coming soon!
Its a bit trickier than it seems when you get users using multiple computers and/or multiple devices. We've considered adding an encryption layer but the app store terms of reference get a bit hard at that point. That's not to say we won't look at it again.

I see the point. My idea was not to enhance existing dropbox sync process with additional encryption layer but to add independent sync channel to dropbox and wi-fi and let the users decide what's more convenient for them. If you add a webDAV synchronizatoin channel (even more natural then dropbox for iPhone) then users have some choice - what webDav provider to use or even power up local webDav server. The same about SFTP channel - but with SFTP it is the most secure way.
The other thing is about whether the desktop app should run for the sync to happen. Again I haven't tried a dropbox sync but from what I've read from fourm the desktop app should be running in order for iPhone to sync data with dropbox. It would be more convenient if desktop and iOS app could sync in asynchronouse manner - one should not depend on other.
Fair criticism. We're looking at it for the next version.

Additional note on this. Please take into consideration the ability to jump to a root level - this saves several taps. In goodreader it's done very nicely - when you tap on the heading of the application below system status bar it opens menu with three choices - goodreader level, My documents top level or cancel.

Another idea - add the ability to transfer reference items to thoughts for further reprocess in desktop app from iOS app. From time to time when in fields one would review reference and put some items into inbox.

Thanks,
Sergei.
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